Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

2:38 PM, Thursday March 24th 2022

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Hey, I couldn't figure out how to delete my earlier post that requested community based feedback as I don't want to take up too much space, so sorry if this seems a bit rude to ask for twice.

I think I need to work more on my

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7:30 AM, Friday April 1st 2022

Hiya, fiddlewheel, and thanks for waiting! Deleting a submission is as simple as asking Uncomfortable on discord (most commonly in the report an issue channel), but it’s perfectly fine staying up, too – a second opinion can’t hurt. As for your next thought, it cut off mid-sentence, but I hope I’ll be able to land on it somewhere in my critique. Speaking of, let’s get to it!

Starting off, I only see 1 page of superimposed lines (the requirement, you’ll recall, is 2). What’s here is mostly alright, though one issue I notice is that, on some occasions, you’ll change the trajectory of your line mid-line – don’t. Also, try not to spend so long lining up your pen to the correct starting point that you lose the built-up rhythm, but also don’t do it so little that the line doesn’t seem to make an effort to – it’s a fine balance. Moving on to your ghosted planes, I’m realizing now that your pages are (I suppose?) A3 in size? If so, then the 1 page of superimposed lines is fine as it is, in terms of amount. The ghosted lines/planes are, as you’ve yourself noted, quite wobbly. Though I wouldn’t be as quick to blame ghosting too much for it – in our experience, it’s generally the opposite. The best way to know, of course, is to experiment. I’ll, in all likelihood, request some extra pages of you, at the end of this submission. For your ghosted lines, what I’d like you to do (I’ll explain it here so as to not clog up the next steps section), is to draw a number of lines of the same length, at different speeds. Start with one that is obviously too slow, and then gradually increase your speed, until you reach one that is obviously too fast. The line you’re looking for is the most accurate one, that has no wobbles. (And, note, that it doesn’t have to be accurate – just the most accurate of the group.) Draw a couple of more lines at that speed, to internalize it, and then do the exercises at that same pace.

The table of ellipses exercise is more of the same, unfortunately. I do notice, however, that the ellipses seem to gain some confidence in their second and third rotations, so the issue is with the commitment, specifically, it seems. See, then, if you can ghost enough that you’re not figuring out your mark ‘on the go’, but rather have settled on it before you commit to it. And, even if you haven’t, the goal isn’t to draw an accurate mark, but rather to draw the same mark that you’ve been ghosting, and not concern yourself with how it looks. Be careful, also, that all of your marks are drawn using your shoulder. Some of your ellipses, I notice, are a little pointy, and this is usually an indication of a lesser pivot working its way in – always check back, to make sure it doesn’t. The ellipses in planes and funnels exercises are well done as far as their respective instructions go, and the confidence of your ellipses increases throughout the set, too. By the end, your ellipses are looking quite solid, actually. Some of the smaller ones have some issues, still, but I’d wager that this is mostly due to their size (it’s harder to engage the shoulder for small marks, as I’m sure you’ve noticed). As such, my only recommendation to you would be to draw big.

The plotted perspective exercise is well done.

The rough perspective exercise is mixed. The convergences start off a little lacking, but show some nice improvement throughout the set. The linework, on the other hand, is bad throughout. One recommendation is, of course, to own every bad line. What I mean by that, is to stick to your initial one, rather than drawing a line that came out wrong a second time, as if the extra ink will do anything to fix your previous mistake. It won’t; it’ll just make it easier to spot, and develop an unhealthy habit of only acceptation perfection. It’s fine to make mistakes. As for issues concerning the linework itself, beyond making your boxes bigger (for the same reason as in the funnels exercise!), what I’ll recommend is the same thing I did for the ghosted lines exercise. After all, these exercises don’t differ that much, in that sense – they’re all just ghosted lines, put to different purposes.

The rotated boxes exercise looks good, if a little small. The linework is a little improved, too, but here, also, you’ll have a line stop short, and continue it in a separate stroke. As mentioned, each line is to be drawn once, and only once. Also, as far as lineweight is concerned, one superimposed line is generally enough to convey what we’re looking for. And I use that term deliberately, because that’s, really, all it is. There’s no need for it to be any less confident than the superimposed lines in your superimposed lines exercise, because that’s all it is. Try not to let the big picture overwhelm you – it’s really all just the same concepts, put into different perspectives. Anyway, moving on to the exercise itself, the boxes are snug, and rotate nicely. Not so much in the back (you’ve forgotten to draw through some of those, too!), but that’s expected. Give this exercise another shot post the box challenge, and you’ll see yourself much improved.

The organic perspective exercise has your lines at their best (and I’m pleased to see that you’ve started plotting start/end points for all of them, too (I noticed that you didn’t, for the non-diagonal center lines of your ghosted planes exercise)), but they’re, still, a little lacking. Every other aspect of this exercise is well done, however, so that’s the only part of it that we’ll need to work on, before you’re able to be sent off to the box challenge.

Next Steps:

So!, I’ll request 1 page of ghosted lines.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
4:43 PM, Saturday April 2nd 2022

Yo dude, thanks for your time and help!

here's my second attempt at the ghosted lines.


I don't want to get too personal, but I am an inattentive ADHD'er with baggage, and I thought it would be helpful for you to know that so you can understand how and why I make certain mistakes.

I find I am having issues with remembering to do certain things while doing some of the homework, like you pointed out that I didn't plot out some of my lines, that's mainly because my brain RAM not being able to remember to plot before drawing the line.

As you also point out, my line gets better after a while, that's mainly because I try to just work through my mistakes, as I know I won't do anything if I hyperfocus too much on getting everything perfectly right. this probably will lead to some of my lines varying in quality, but I try to forge ahead and practice what you teach, as in treating this as mass training for my drawing arm much like how you practice punches in Karate.

You mention that I need to own the bad lines, yes, I agree, but some of those uneven lines are exactly that, but I keep trying :)

I find when I write by hand (while unmedicated) I tend to forget some letters or unintentionally skipping words, and I think this is also something that affects some of my ability to perform well on some of these homework assignments, like forgetting to plot my lines. This just means I need to try harder of course, but again I just wanted to mention this.

Anyway, I am so grateful for your service and help, I have a lot of experience with art, but I never had the chance to practice the basics due to lets say "stuff", but I hope you can grant me some patience as I probably will do some of the exercises badly before getting better.

10:17 AM, Monday April 4th 2022

Hi! A small clarification: when I said that you need to own up to your mistakes, I was specifically referring to the automatic reinforcing habit (this is to say, drawing a line, it coming out wrong, and then fixing it in a knee-jerk reaction). I just wanted to make sure this was 100% clear. A line coming out wrong is not an issue; not being able to handle that is, as it inspires a bad attitude towards failure.

Regarding the ADHD thing, I'm not exactly qualified to comment (and my understanding of it is quite lacking, also), but I will offer that, whatever helps you remember, you can feel free to rely on. What I mean by this is that, in the course, we mention that pages need to be kept clean (no doodles, notes, etc.) But if you find that writing the steps in a corner somewhere, or whatever else, helps you, feel free to go for it. It's perfectly fine.

Finally, you don't need to worry about patience on my part. Usually, it's the opposite with students - they're the ones that feel like they're ready to move on, whereas we're the ones that need to hold them here, to make sure that they're not moving forwards with a foundation that's lacking. So, neither from myself, nor, I feel confident in saying, any of the other TAs, do you need to concern yourself about that. Take your time, and feel free to hit us up with questions.

NOW! Sorry to have kept you waiting; your lines look much better, and you may move on to the box challenge!

Next Steps:

250 Box Challenge

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
10:22 AM, Monday April 4th 2022

Thanks man! I just over share a little bit too easily.

I did start on the 250 box challenge as to keep my practicing going, should I restart or just keep going? I don't mind restarting as I haven't drawn that many yet, and me starting on them allowed me to get used to how they are supposed to be executed.

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